Tragically, the world completely overlooks the fulfillment of the second and third Annual Holydays, and instead focuses entirely upon the fulfillment of the fourth Annual Holyday named “Feast of Trumpets”, picturing the return of the Messiah.

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Re: Summary Please - OK

Quick Summary: The 2nd Holyday has not occurred yet in history.

I believe that the Feast of Unleavened Bread is a type of a period of time. It begins and ends with Holydays. The last day, the 2nd Holyday, marks the END of that period of time.

I believe that period of time (7 days) corresponds to the 7 churches, the 7 church eras, outlined in Rev 2 & 3. Rev 4, with its focus on worshipping the Creator is the reaction in heaven to them witnessing the miraculous desert creation on the earth that occurs as the FULFILLMENT of the 2nd Holyday.

If we are in the Laodicean Era, the 7th church, then its end is very near, and will be marked by the BIG event of the 2nd Holyday.

Then, IF the 7x7 applies since this a "prophetic" period, the day after is the 50th day -- Pentecost -- the 3rd Holyday.

HWA never explained this... And he never explained Rev 4 & 5, except to label it "A Prelude" in his little white booklet entitled "The Key to the Book of Revelation". No one has been here before... asking this question about the fulfillment of the 2nd Holyday in history.

This issue is important to me because it is tremendously GOOD NEWS. That is why I am "serious" about this. The hope of the 2nd Holyday will help many who have been abused by the elitist ministers in today's churches who deal in fear and paranoia about the "End" in order to control them. I also had to come out of that fear control drama "group-think" in order to really think for myself and begin to ask questions again. We all need to stop playing the "victim of abuse" game.... we need to "get over it" and start thinking for ourselves again. We all got used to "checking out brains at the door" when we went to church services. Now it's time to wake up and restart our brains! We will see if the Biblical "authorities" can answer the 10 questions at: Holydays 2 and 3 Overlooked?

Thanks for your reply _____.

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Re: A Follow Up Query - Thanks!

Thanks _____ ... I appreciate your kind response.

I agree... if we had discussion forums such as these back then, we would have been able to share insights from our own personal Bible study and relationship with Our Father, and perhaps have prevented the "brainwashing" by the "elites".

I believe all of the abuse we have suffered from what some call "Armstrongism" stems from his ignoring/missing the FULFILLMENT of the 2nd Holyday, and OUR fault for not asking the right questions.

IF the death of the Messiah fulfilled the 1st Holyday, and IF the Pentecost of Acts 2 fulfilled the 3rd Holyday, then what happened to the FULFILLMENT of the 2nd Holyday? What BIG EVENT happened between the death and resurrection of the Messiah AND the Pentecost of Acts 2?

Herbert Armstrong NEVER addressed this issue. That is the crux of the problem! That was his fatal mistake. This mistake caused everyone to focus on the gloom and doom of the 4th Holyday... the "End of the World" and the Tribulation, enabling us to be manipulated by FEAR and paranoia to be subservient and "unquestioning" so that we could go to the "place of safety". What a tragedy...

I bought into this too... this FEAR mentality. But I decided to stop playing the "victim of abuse" game, and by taking responsibility for My mistake in allowing Myself to be manipulated, I was then FREE and able to do something about it, and end that "control drama". Once I owned my part in allowing it, then I could FIX it, and get past it.

I left WCG in 1995. I am not a member of ANY group... I had to avoid the FEAR mentality for a while in order to look objectively at the Bible.... AND the HOLYDAYS. Some are still not able to do that yet... I understand... it is still too painful to even discuss the Holydays (now, sadly, called "Armstrongism"). I do not fault them for that... I have been there. But I was determined NOT to let that anger and FEAR control me anymore. Many will not get over their anger UNTIL this BIG event of the 2nd Holyday occurs. At least that is my hope... And it will take something BIG to get them and the world out of the "Matrix". Satan would love to have us associate the Holydays with HWA, to discount them entirely... But HWA did not write Leviticus 23, or Zechariah 14 showing that the Feast of Tabernacles will be enforced by the King of Kings when He Returns, since people in the world at that time will be FULFILLING THAT HOLYDAY. The Holydays are not obsolete -- and they a bigger than HWA.

Anyways, to answer your questions...

"... why would God skip over the second holy day to fulfill the third one out of sequence?"

That is the perfect question! That is the question that reveals the FALSE ASSUMPTION Armstrong made about the Pentecost of Acts 2 -- the assumption that it was a FULFILLMENT, and NOT a TYPE.

I believe that the Pentecost of Acts 2 was only a TYPE -- not a FULFILLMENT... precisely because there was no BIG EVENT that happened between the Messiah's death/ resurrection AND the Pentecost of Acts 2.

The FIRST HARVEST (Pentecost, 3rd Holyday) is still yet to come... AFTER the 2nd Holyday occurs. This is exactly the issue I am trying to point out, and you are the first person in this discussion group to see "the question" that no one has ever asked during and since Armstrong's "reign".

I believe in the "church eras". Some, perhaps many, do not. I believe the Creator put them in REVELATION to show that they were "prophetic" in application (not just for apostolic times), and that there is a chronological and linear timeline to the placement chapters in Revelation. I do not think a "day for a year" applies to these "eras". I believe the Creator was measuring the time BY these periods during which He was calling and training "samples" of those times who could relate to the people of those times when they were resurrected in the 2nd resurection. That is why the periods are not static and equal... He wanted to be able to shorten/lengthen each period according to the times that the "chosen samples" were living in. In some eras, it may perhaps take longer to call enough people in, or the times did not change enough for HIm to begin a new era... who knows... I am just speculating here.

And HWA never explained Rev 4 & 5. Why? His only comment that I have found is that they were a "Prelude".

I prefer to believe it was hidden from him... and that he was not purposely suppressing the truth. At least I hope not. If he had correctly understood that Rev 4 corresponded to the 2nd Holyday, and that Rev 5 corresponded to Rev 5, it would have made a world of difference. He would NOT have used the "FEAR" card to gather a following to escape the Tribulation. We would have known that the First Harvest was the Firstfruit "kingdom" that we should have been praying about and expecting. And there was no FEAR or WAR related to the FULFILLMENT of that event!

But why was he not shown this information? We could also ask why the Creator did not show the apostles that the End Time was a long way off. It probably is because we as frail mankind primarily only respond to fear, sorry to say.

Personally, I may not have gotten involved with the WCG if it did not have the imminent "end-time" appeal. But if the Creator is truly in charge (NOT HWA), how am I going to blame the Creator? I wouldn't want to pull a "JOB" on the Creator, would you?

Perhaps this is all just SPECULATION on my part, but I have an intuition that this is the real meaning of the 2nd Holyday, that it ENDS the Church Eras, and then comes the FIRST HARVEST, as a TYPE of the FALL HARVEST that occurs after the Messiah returns. I believe the "Kingdom of Priests" referred to in Rev 5.9-10 is this First Harvest.

I am just trying to point out the importance of the very question you raised, and give you the only explanation that makes sense to me, and gives everyone a real hope of very good news to appear very soon, despite the intense disinformation program by Satan about the Holydays.

Thanks again for your reply. I hope that I have answered your query.

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